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Hello everybody! I would like to add a link to the channel on DIscord talking about the update that will arrive this month of May with many new features in the project.
https://discord.gg/wS3Vmhpr
JunoKeijsers
Well i installed it but i still see the Freedom Tower, 3 and 4 WTC, how do i remove them?
kvartizel
The buildings are very detailed, and they blend nicely with the surrounding city, which is made using photogrammetry. At first glance, it's hard to tell whether it's a mod or an actual element of the game. There's the ability to land helicopters on the rooftops of the buildings and explore a few locations inside. The lobbies in both buildings are well done. Unfortunately, due to the probable high number of assets, the game experiences incredibly low FPS levels, which could likely be improved by moving further away from the buildings. However, returning to the lobby area causes significant lag.
Regarding the lighting, it's alright, but it should be brighter and denser to create a more natural effect of the buildings being densely populated with people. Buildings 6, 5, and 4 should have improved lighting and more realistic reflections. The missing curtains make the buildings seem empty. Building 7 lacks lighting, but I understand that it may be added in the future. As of May 20, 2023, I rate this project a 4.5 out of 5.
RobM 20 day(s) ago
Yes, totally agree w/ the fps issue. Installed this once it was available & noticed a complete drop in it (down to 8fps). Tried a test using default Cessna) & every time that I (as I got near the towers) of the drop. When going off scene (turned away), fps shot up back to btwn the 30-40 range & this is w/ KJFK newest install-no issues w/ that.
RobM
Well Now. All I can say is----WOW, What Work. Well Done!!!!
Marine RM
Hello everybody! I would like to add a link to the channel on DIscord talking about the update that will arrive this month of May with many new features in the project.
https://discord.gg/wS3Vmhpr
RobM 20 day(s) ago
Don't use social media for obvious reasons-the heck with them. Lesson learned.
msfsuser123
I have a question for the creator, what about the freedom tower? does it automatically get removed by the mod?
Marine RM 1 month(s) ago
The Freedom Tower is automatically removed from the region to make way for the WTC complex as it was before 2001
MrScuba1959
I wonder how many sicko's will crash into these
SlowPoke 30 day(s) ago
A lot unfortunately.. I remember when GTAV first came out and people were live streaming their early release, and people were literally requesting in the chat to fly the planes into the skyscrapers, asking them to "Do a 9/11"... Unfortunately we live in a society with a LOT of mentally disturbed people...
SCMustang
I love this, worth the purchase but the size needs to be changed
As great as these are in sim they need to be bigger to fit the actual size of the towers as they were in person.
I believe that if you used the Memorial pool to base the size and width off of, those pools are about 20% smaller from what Ive seen on similar mods
Hope to see the size fixed with how great this mod is
usmarinesoldier
Thank you for doing this. Good to see the towers back. Hoping for an option for a slightly taller version
BJM62
I'm getting an error with a couple of the textures under install, any ideas?
The_LAW__tOot
The Scenery is alright, but can you please had colisions to the whole scene, aside from the two helipads you clip throught every roofs and even the plaza ground. With Heli update it's a much needed Fix 😊
Marine RM 6 month(s) ago
Thank you! I'm working on improvements to the road and adding the Lobby, and I'm going to add collision only to the top of the towers and not to the whole building to avoid malicious people colliding the planes, this is very annoying I know, but there is a lot of feeling involved when talking of the World Trade Center and we try not to hurt anybody. I see that active collisions only in the helipad region is something that will maintain realism and keep people with bad intentions away
The_LAW__tOot 6 month(s) ago
Thanks for the reply, no I'm not talking about vertical surfaces but only honrisontal ones.
All the Roofs tops and the plaza, because helicopter generate Ground effect with the new helicopter CFD simulation.
To any building landing approach its necessary to simulate the whole surface not just the Helipad.
CC_2387
In case anyone still wants a good wtc but doesn't want to pay, go down to the comments and click the link there. It doesn't have a plaza but it gets the job done pretty well. https://flightsim.to/file/16459/twin-towers-world-trade-center-before-2001
CC_2387 7 month(s) ago
bro who tf downvoted me the one I linked doesn't even have night textures its not like I'm giving away a free version of this. This is still way better and probably worth buying. I just want to give people an option for a goodish free one
Beetlecat 30 day(s) ago
I suppose the downvotes are because it's sort of crass to direct people *away* from a project to another "competing" one.
choonzy 28 day(s) ago
exactly, pretty poor taste to link a competing product on a payware page. i'm surprised it hasnt been deleted, i would. can you understand this reasoning
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CPK1994
looks great, don't listen to the haters out there. I was 5 years old when 9/11 happened but I always wish I saw new york this way as it was meant to be. They were beautiful buildings.
Marine RM 8 month(s) ago
You know, I'm also from 1994 and I wish I could have visited the World Trade Center in real life if I could, so rebuilding the towers in 3D and visiting them in VR is a lifetime achievement. I'll add more tower parts over time, let's hope for that. Thank you!
cp087911111
jst bought his as i loved these buildings how do i get the veiw inside them what do i do to see the beautifuil insides many thanks chris
Maxest 8 month(s) ago
You need to select the showcase camera and the camera drone from the top panel. Then you should navigate all the way up inside the towers to see the rooms.
MarbleFlower
charging money for the site of the most infamous terrorist attack in recent history in a video game specifically about flying planes, hmm I'm sure this will definitely be used in the most tasteful way by everyone who buys it and give the community and this website a positive reputation, there's no way anything can possibly go wrong right? how this got past quality control is beyond me, and the most offensive thing about it is how the developers are charging $10 with no indication the money is going anywhere other than them.
Maxest 8 month(s) ago
While like I previously said I totally understand why some people would not want to have this add-on installed due to hard feelings it may reveal I don't get the constant need for the Author's dehumanization.
For some people this add-on is the reminder of pain and this is totally valid. But there are also people like me and the others for whom the Towers are the symbol of the happier times, they childhood and youth before the 9/11. Then there's also a people who want the Towers to be properly remembered and documented. Of course, then you'll also find some kids or straight up jerks who will use this add-on to fly a plane into it for memes and thew up a 9/11 trolling in the comments. Does it means that this last group is more important than everyone else mentioned and should be feared? I don't think so, besides that they would fly a plane into the other buildings, regardless - even without this add-on.
I also don't agree that such a tremendous work to research and to build up such a big complex should not be rewarded.
Sourdoughman 7 month(s) ago
Arrogant much? Authors create with their talent and time and ppl bitch about anything they make. This is a video game and not real life. Some ppl like me will enjoy this scenery over NYC as well as exploring the inside. This is America, not everyone agrees, if you don't like something don't buy it and don't waste your time. Some of you ppl suck, I wonder just how miserable you are in real life.
Sourdoughman 7 month(s) ago
If you ppl were as concerned about open borders as you are over a video game the country would be better. The hijackers overstayed their Visas. Guess what? The problem was never fixed instead American citizens have been punished for years. With open borders, drug cartels and terrorists, prisoners are entering this country every day.
Maxest
https://imgur.com/a/LB6Fztc
Hello, everyone.
I have replaced some of the textures. The floor tiles are now much closer to the original. Menus are replaced with the menus from Nathan's famous hot dogs (they are all modern however, as I could not find anything from the 90s) - the restaurant that actually existed in the South Tower. Texture for the keyboard is also got replaced (some keyboards are mirrored due to texture limitation - however a left hand keyboards are also a thing in real life).
The only one thing that I gave up on is Ramlösa logo, fixing the mirrored texture is not a problem but to get it centered right without the corner appearing from the other side is a hell of a job, especially considering having to reload the Sim every time to see if the texture is properly aligned.
With the Author's will and permission I can either give them the new texture files or share them with a community.
Marine RM 8 month(s) ago
Hi, Maxest
Your texture is great and transports us to something much closer to the photo. Send me an email with that texture or some improvement and I can include it in an official version via update
Maxest 8 month(s) ago
Thank you very much for such a great feedback!
I will send you an email soon
toshie27 8 month(s) ago
Maxest 8 month(s) ago
Absolutely agree with everything you said here.
The new WTC don't blend with the Manhattan's skyline at all and sticks out unlike the original WTC that helped to balance it (but maybe the newly built Jenga Tower and the Billionaire Row are even worse).
And yes, people are completely lost the sense of what is offensive. If we look at another case of a big tragedy, the Titanic disaster I don't think a lot of people would dare to say that the James Cameron movie was offensive and should not have been made. I don't understand the people who idolize the tragedy but refuse to remember the Towers and it's pre 9/11 legacy at all. Why only remembering the death but not the life? It is not the same as simply not wanting to see the Towers in the game or media because it provokes a hard memories of a loved ones lost.
Today I also emailed the Author some floor plans I found including the South Tower's observation deck with the accuracy down to every outside column. So, if the Author is willing it is now even possible to recreate the entire viewing area with the accuracy that has never seen before in a video game.
I am very happy that this Project matures even more and becomes better every day.
PilotFelix9640
I would buy it if the price would be more appropriate, considering that you get the whole city of New York with SamScene3D NY Times add on for 14,95€. I know how much work it is to create this but for the same price you get whole airport sceneries or city sceneries.
Maxest
The new update is amazing. Cannot believe it arrived so fast!
I only think that the ATM machines are way too huge - like 4x times bigger.
Currently I am also working on a texture fix to replace the floor tiles and the ads in Chinese.
The updated office looks very authentic now, but I just realized that are two more mistakes that I haven't noticed at first. The windows don't actually go down to the floor level, instead there should be a border with vents, exactly the one as at the Windows of the World restaurant. Second, if we stick further with realism the office should be 1 floor lower as the restaurant and its facilities were occupying both floors.
If speaking about further improvements can you consider changing the material of the outside beams from matte to a more reflective metallic look? The window textures with the parallax effect would look absolutely stunning as well - especially at night. Do you think it is possible to do, or it will be way too big performance impact?
Marine RM 8 month(s) ago
I thank you for so much love and I see that the WTC is as special to you as it is to me.
I will be moving the office down one floor to consider the restaurant facilities and improving the windows.
I intend to improve the metallic texture of the structure as well, especially in the Lobby region, after fixing some minor bugs on the outside.
I also want to announce something important: The Roadmap for upcoming updates, this will be in a pinned comment soon. I will be developing the South Tower lobby and not the North Tower.
In the South Tower lobby, I will make elevators to the South Tower Observation Deck and from there you can take the stairs to the top of the building, and there will be a path to the helipad. The entire route can be done from street level to the helipad. It's ambitious, but possible. This will happen in the next few months. I'm happy to share it here. I will start this work after fixing the main bugs of this initial version.
Maxest 8 month(s) ago
This plan sounds amazing, I am happy to hear this project is becoming something similar to the "Titanic: Honor and Glory" up coming game, with an amazing free demo that aims to recreate the Titanic as authentic as possible. Thankfully The Sim itself also improves its resources usage, so likely with the further DX12 improvements the performance will get even better, and lesser of the thing to care about. I already switched everything to Ultra with the DX12 - and I am still running on GTX 980!
Yes, the WTC is also important to me as well. I never been there in real life but growing up I always remember seeing it in the movies, and posters around. They felt absolutely majestic despite being so simple. For me it's the symbol of the happier times and childhood, as my life went downhill since the 00's.
P.S. I am not sure if you know already, but there's a community for the WTC enthusiasts with a lot of rare photos, videos, and even some blueprints and the floor plans. I also used this community in my research as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinTowersInPhotos/
Then there's also this Wikipedia page where you can get a rough idea about what facilities or offices were located on each floor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_tenants_in_the_World_Trade_Center_(1973%E2%80%932001)
toshie27
Maxest 8 month(s) ago
Asobo has changed the way collision work (likely for the upcoming helicopter update). If there would be roof collisions then you would not be able to explore the interiors with the drone camera anymore - because the camera would just jump to the roof level.
toshie27 8 month(s) ago
XoseMoura
Such a well done tribute to the most beautiful and iconic landamrk at NYC, thanks for all the time spent developing this addon with a excelent price for it.
I love the story of the old twin towers until the unfortunate attack.
This addon should be consider a symbol of homage for those who lost their lives on that tragic day. May their lives be remembered forever, along with the memories of this beautiful business complex.
Thank you, Rodrigo!
gregcarterxxx
Why pay 10$ for two buildings when there are already multiple freeware Twin Towers that look better
Marine RM 8 month(s) ago
With interior? helipad working? night lights? lobby? Everyone is free to choose the way they like, but this Is a work dedicated to those who want to live the experience of visiting the towers flying around or inside VR
Sourdoughman 7 month(s) ago
Shouldn't that be up to the individual? Why should you care how ppl spend their money? WTH is wrong with some of you?